View Full Version : Skelmorlie Bank barge
alexmaclennan
02-03-07, 07:41
Anyone got any info on this small wreck?. Lies on the west side of Skelmorlie bank in about 20m. Worth diving? Not worth diving?
It lies in the centre of this chart
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g221/alexmaclennan/Wreck%20charts/skelimorliebargechart.jpg
alex
thats a long way off-shore.
are you sure its not a sub? :rolleyes: :D
alexmaclennan
02-03-07, 22:19
Long way offshore but not deep. Sharky on Finstrokes said it was a barge and I know that there is a barge on the Skelmorlie bank from other web chat/ blogs. I think it is a recognised site for people doing their instructor exams to be asked to survey.
alex
alexmaclennan
02-03-07, 23:55
Yes, boat dive only. Skelmorlie Bank lies on a line between Toward Point to the West and just south of Skelmorlie to the East. It lies 1.3 NM west of Skelmorlie and 1.7 NM east of Toward.
alex
If there was anythig there I think it would have been dived more often.
PS nice chart alex :D
alexmaclennan
03-03-07, 17:43
Yes Ding, It's amazing what you find browsing these days ;). Where did you get your CD?. The charts from your CD are more detailed than the ones my RYA/ Admiralty leisure CD produces.
alex
what software produced the above chart?
what software produced the above chart?
Mapsource. ;) and they have a file added by me with wreck info.
Wee update from Stevie on this one:
http://www.congeralley.com/links/showlink.php?do=showdetails&l=565&catid=searchresults&searchid=1672
Lizardland
23-08-07, 17:18
I know it's a bit obvious, but I take it there's nothing in Moir & Crawford about it?
Call it a sub, no-one will ever know :)
I know it's a bit obvious, but I take it there's nothing in Moir & Crawford about it?
Call it a sub, no-one will ever know :)
I wondered the same thing myself and have just checked it out. There is mention of a wooden barque called the Toveruus which was anchored on the south side of Skelmorie bank in 1875 and was kit by a steamer. According to the book, the authors have looked for the remains, but could not find them. The wreck was salvaged but the hull is supposed to still be there.
I say we go looking for it.
TheMacallan
27-08-07, 13:00
Just a wee head up on this. If you plan to dive it please give Clyde Port Authority a call. It is very close to the Shipping Channel. Failure to do so will see the Pilot having a private word.
As Stevie says it is an oasis in a desert. Last time I dived it there was a mast and steering gear. In 1999 someone :rolleyes: gave the FCD examiners the numbers.
Nederlander
28-08-07, 16:38
Is it just me or does anyone else get the feeling the The Macallan has been drinking too much of his own product???? Talk about talking mince.... :D
TheMacallan
29-08-07, 10:08
??:confused: ??
Which bit do you think I have got wrong?
Flying Eagle certainly calls Clyde Ports.
I've dived that barge say ten times so pretty sure of what lies below.
Being in 20m it is a much less daunting dive for the novice wrecker.
The wreck lies on a carpet of brittle stars so it is pointless moving off the wreck.
It is one of the Clyde's more pleasant dives.
The only reason I posted was to highlight the safety issue of the proximity of the Shipping Channel. Clyde Ports can advise you of the shipping movements.
If you have not "called in" the river Pilot will certainly have a word with you. It is also on a ferry route so a bit of caution here as well.
.....but perhaps I've got all wrong, so over to you...:)
Nederlander
29-08-07, 13:11
It was the bit about the steering gear and masts etc... I dont doubt the authentication of your knowledge of the byelaws for the Clyde Approaches.
I have a well versed inbuilt cynicism about spurious tales of virtually undived 'ships' or 'aircraft'..... :D
TheMacallan
29-08-07, 15:43
Its in Clyde Shipwrecks (Moir/Crawford)as a barge.(p81).
I though Stevie1262 gave a a good description ealier in the thread.
http://www.congeralley.com/links/showlink.php?do=showdetails&l=565&catid=searchresults&searchid=1672
Oh well.
From the Hydrographic Office.
12 May 1986. The site was examined on 29 June 1985 at 55 51 49N, 004 55 40W. The least echosounder depth was 14.9 in a general depth of 18 metres. No scouring as observed. The side scan sonar indicated a height of 3 metres and length of 10 metres. The wreck is lying on a steeply shelving seabed, and orientated 000/180 degrees. The site was not fully examined.
Report by HMS GLEANER.
.....but perhaps "all the above" have it wrong, so over to you...:)
alexmaclennan
29-08-07, 21:38
Thanks to Stevie 1262 and The Macallan for descriptions of this wreck. I've added The Macallans comments to the divesite description.
alex
TheMacallan
11-02-09, 18:25
Sorry for resurrecting this old thread but I was looking out a wee plan of Furnace Quarry when I came across this.
I think this is circa 1998.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t44/TheMacallan/img065Small.jpg
"The barge is orientated approx N/S with the assumed bow South.
One mast lies in the wreckage at he bow, another mast lies off the starboard side approximately 2m off the wreck. A winch is located in the bow section."
Mr Flibble
11-02-09, 19:41
Cheers for that. This is the kinda thing I like, a wreck that not much is known about with hopefully a story somewhere in the archives. :D
Hopefully dive this wreck one day as a second dive on the clyde.
Thanks again.
I would be up for that too.
Think it gets a mention in Gordon Ridley's Dive West scotland (1984) off the top of my head but not 100% sure.
Sounds interesting ... something different. Might go looking for it in the club rib one weekend. How accurate are the Gps co-ordinates for it?
gordon mackie
13-02-09, 15:04
you can even swim through the "hulls" with a twinset on...quite roomy...easy to find, GPS is accurate and it shows nicely on the sounder as you pass over it as well..good second dive after the Akka
you can even swim through the "hulls" with a twinset on...quite roomy...easy to find, GPS is accurate and it shows nicely on the sounder as you pass over it as well..good second dive after the Akka
Thanks mate. Oh saw Gnomes at the caves on sat ... yours i assume?
gordon mackie
16-02-09, 09:24
1st rule of diving - if you find a gnome..it is probably mine :-)
scottish-diver
18-02-09, 00:53
1st rule of diving - if you find a gnome..it is probably mine :-)
Is it just me or is thing gnome thing getting rather annoying and pathetic?
Surely the whole point of diving is to see a world we dont get to enjoy for most of the week, and not seeing a daft garden ornament on every dive site whilst searching for a nudibranch, pipefish, etc.
And before anyone says anything: yes am am one of the Coatbridge SAC members who started the original gnome garden at Kenmore Point - something which i now wish i hadn't bothered.
Oh lighten up mate, sounds like you are annoyed because you started the Gnome thing, but not getting any credit? You could always liberate the Gnomes for a laugh :D
gordon mackie
18-02-09, 12:55
ah well...my mission must be complete now that every dive site has a gnome...who is it that keeps planting big ships everywhere? I keep finding them as well :-)
scottish-diver
18-02-09, 14:04
Oh lighten up mate, sounds like you are annoyed because you started the Gnome thing, but not getting any credit? You could always liberate the Gnomes for a laugh :D
Nah not looking for credit. Besides it wasn't me who placed the first gnome anyway.
Liberating them sounds like a good plan tho! :D
Sounds like the start of a new thread...............'Gnomes Re-united' :D
Let's liberate the gnomes S-D, then dump them in Gordon's garden during the night :D
dive granny
18-02-09, 22:33
Don't do it yet. I haven't seen any.;)
scottish-diver
19-02-09, 20:46
Don't do it yet. I haven't seen any.;)
Don't worry D-G, any liberated gnomes will be placed at Kenmore Point so it's just the one area they inhabit :D