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IFAIRLEY
29-11-08, 10:00
http://www.travel-dive.com/dir-what-its-nott

loudy331
30-11-08, 22:55
http://www.travel-dive.com/dir-what-its-not

I found this quite interesting. Not DIR myself, but then again I don't dive in Caves in Florida :).

Very interesting reading :),dare you to post it on YD though :rolleyes:

iainmsmith
30-11-08, 23:17
http://www.travel-dive.com/dir-what-its-not

I found this quite interesting. Not DIR myself, but then again I don't dive in Caves in Florida :).

Yawn...

I'm assuming you don't need me to take that article apart for you...

Iain

chris
01-12-08, 09:56
Hilarious reading, thanks! :D

Canadadiver
01-12-08, 10:29
I read this article all the way through - chuckling because observing DIR- and antiDIR-rants from the sidelines is like watching outrageous reality TV (I'm thinking about "The Surreal Life" specifically, so maybe I mean American reality TV...) - and when I got to the bottom, I had another good laugh. The author is Mark Elyatt (!) - a technical diver/instructor and author of Ocean Gladiator.

Ocean Gladiator has to be one of my favourite books on diving. It's not exactly intellectual material and since Mark is writing about his own exploits, it reeks of bravado... but still, the things that he does (or says he did) are so stupid and dangerous it's fantastic reading! Mark is the former world record holder for the deepest scuba dive (313 m, Phuket, 2004). The book is full of rants of the same style too - in a way, he's a lot like his nemisis, George Irvine...

Canadadiver
01-12-08, 10:30
...excerpts from Ocean Gladiator can be found at: http://www.travel-dive.com/marke/ ...

iainmsmith
01-12-08, 11:52
Can if you want to, makes no difference to me as I'm not a Clone and see the article as a bit of fun, which it is.

Maybe...but I think it's sad that a well known "professional" instructor is either sufficiently ignorant to publish something which demonstrates significant lack of knowledge of what he's writing about or is so insecure that he has to deliberately misrepresent a different approach to diving (and, while DIR proponents have certainly taken a blunt and, in some well known cases, abusive approach to other ways of diving, I don't think misrepresentation has been high on the list of "attack techniques"...it hasn't normally been needed.)

Still, I don't suppose there's any great problem as long as you remember that the title of his article was correct: whatever he was describing, it wasn't DIR.

Iain

PS - not a "Clone" by design but by evolution. Over the last five or six years, every time I thought I'd found a better way to do something than simply following the advice I'd received, sooner or later I'd discover that I hadn't. But it does mean that, like most DIR-types, I can probably explain pretty much every o-ring or tie on my kit in enough detail to put most people to sleep. :-)

stew
27-12-08, 23:04
an amusing read, Mr Elyatt can always tell a story...;)
but lets be honest here, if any agency was 'doing it right' then they would have a deco chamber on site when doing deco dives.
puting yourself in a position of decompression in a recreational manner to 'get your kicks' as a weekend warrior is an unsafe act.
im happy for any agency to prove me wrong!;)

Bikerbill
27-12-08, 23:31
Myself and a mate just happened to get into a conversation with a DIR diver a while back. He had been diving for 5 years or so and spoke emphatically with ignorance. We did not tell him we had 50 years experience between us. Won't go into detail, but oh what sport we had :D:D