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NorthernTechnical
28-09-08, 23:21
Northern Technical is the newest Technical Diving Team in Scotland founded by ITDA Instructor Ian Reid. With a technical diving background of 10 years and a career in wreck hunting and salvage we are keen to combine both interests in creating an ambitious and successful technical team with similar interest and backgrounds to achieve a new level of technical diving in Scotland with a mixture of new discoveries in local waters as well as larger more challenging expeditions at home and abroad.
The Purpose of Northern Technical is to give experienced and enthusiastic technical divers the opportunity to regularly dive deep wreck sites in local waters as well as abroad.
The type of Team we are looking to achieve is a group of people with a high level experience with mixed gases, depth and wrecks who are continually looking for the next big adventure and have a true passion for their sport.
Enthusiasm and dedication are key qualities in or members as training will be frequent and demanding- a standard of fitness will be expected of all divers as well as a strict ‘miss training miss diving’ policy. In this type of diving slackness leads to problems so if you cannot make the required commitments prior to the dive someone who does will take your place.
This policy will apply to all members for all dives not just large scale expeditions.
Exceptions can only be made under certain circumstances.
There will be 3 types of diving done for Northern Technical
• Regular and local 50+m
• Virgin wreck hunting
• Large expeditions (home and abroad) to famous wrecks.
Each member will have to own a full set of ‘technical’ diving equipment this essential means 2 of everything.
On joining the team a non-refundable deposit will have to be paid. This will contribute to the expansion and running of the team and make or dives more accessible and adventurous. A small boat and sonar fish are the main items of purchase that will be necessary for wreck hunting and expeditions.
O2 and He2 should also be available for large scale dives to all members -pending
A reminder of course that while gas diving does have hazards in itself all measures will be taken to decrease them.
Risk assessments (HSE standard and approved) will be made for all dive sites and SOPS signed by all members.
A full ban on alcohol the night before and mixed gas dive will be in place.
Also included in the RA will be parameters for weather conditions. Under no circumstances regardless of how costly will a dive continue once above the parameters of the RA.
This is something that all divers should consider before membership as the likelihood of postponement due to weather is relatively high is this country.
Also upon joining a disclaimer will be handed out for all new members to sign simply stating that Northern technical and all representatives are not liable in the event of an incident caused by the diver’s irresponsibility, each diver is responsible for himself and his own equipment as well as behaviour.
For those who are interested in joining the team but are not fully qualified to join immediately a membership is still available. With discounted/free courses through ITDA for advancement.
The need for surface support and researchers will always be there so there is something available for all levels of divers with the enthusiasm and determination.
If any of this has perked your interest feel free to contact me, our first project will be Loch Fyne tanks and landing crafts being carried out over the Christmas period of this year. ALL VOLUNTEERS WELCOME.
As a gas diver i cold be interested depending on the politics
this is an area of diving im looking to advance into. though at the moment think i need i bit more experience first. at the moment im saving up to do my adv. nitrox and deco prob in the next few months. though i would love to help out in the meantime in other aspects until my diving level increaces.
kyle
NorthernTechnical
29-09-08, 19:12
Hi guys
thanks for getting in touch all levels of divers are welcome will find somenthing for all to do. Always jobs fo safety divers to bottom divers and even medics in case of emergencies and to stick to high standards during expeditions.
As we are not a club there will be no politics what-so-ever just a team of experienced divers working together to get some amazing diving done.
Will have a meeting in approx one months time for all interested persons to come along and learn more about what Northern Technical is expecting to achieve.
Cheers
Ian :D
sounds good ian. stick me on the list :D:D
kyle
stafforddiver
30-09-08, 10:21
Sounds like an interesting concept.
Will watch this one with interest :)
Gareth.
nice!
If I was back in Scotland I would certinly be going over to the dark side, however I'm not so I'll stick to the blue water warm stuff...
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 00:08
Sounds like an interesting concept.
Will watch this one with interest :)
Gareth.
I would rather be doing than watching:)
Down Under Diver
01-10-08, 01:28
a strict ‘miss training miss diving’ policy.
Each member will have to own a full set of ‘technical’ diving equipment this essential means 2 of everything.
On joining the team a non-refundable deposit will have to be paid.
A full ban on alcohol the night before and mixed gas dive will be in place.
Sounds like you've managed to strip most of the fun stuff out of diving! Also sounds like the type of 'Elitism' that drives many people away from diving in my opinion. You can count me out!
Its not a club So basically you just want people to buy you a boat
I think not
Sounds like you've managed to strip most of the fun stuff out of diving! Also sounds like the type of 'Elitism' that drives many people away from diving in my opinion. You can count me out!
I think that's unfair. The restrictions appear to me to be very well founded givent he sort of diving that will be done. Not being dived up and drinking contribute towards incidents.
stafforddiver
01-10-08, 10:19
I think the restrictions are sensible, I certainly don't drink more than a pint of shandy before a challenging days diving and if your not dived up for a dive you should not be doing it. Fitness level requirements is a little DIR esque, but why not......
I think not being a club, but signing disclaimers and offering free training and purchasing boats via 'non refundable deposits' is a unique way of approaching the club / diving organisation system. I think if I was the organiser i would want some kind of insurance and would recommend thats worth obtaining, you also need to decide what happens to the assets if the group disbands, I would suggest sold and the moneys divided by the members or given to the RNLI.
Sounds like a really cool idea though, and setting it all out in advance is actually a good thing to do. I'm not sure personally I could commit to the sort of time this would need without effecting other aspects of my diving, but things might change over the next few months.
Gareth :)
craigdiver
01-10-08, 12:21
Each member will have to own a full set of ‘technical’ diving equipment this essential means 2 of everything
Please can you explain/clarify this statement further. Currently I am working my way down the ladder to techical depths (just moved onto twins) and would be very interested in patricipating as safety diver etc. However, I do not like the sound of having to own 2 sets of kit. Surely if there is a kit problem you sit the dive out. Are you aiming the 'club' at the wealthy?
Regards
Craigdiver
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 13:10
Hi Craig
To settle your query what is meant by two sets of gear is the 'little things' that some people dont think of ,but are a must on any large expedition(not regular dives) such as two masks, smb's of both colours, reels, torches etc.
in technical diving even when you are buddied up with someone most perpare themselves as solo divers and think of every possible senario to ensure that if something is broken or lost you have a back up to minimise any problems.
Hope this helps
:)
Mr Flibble
01-10-08, 13:20
I think the idea of 2 of everything is aimed at redundancy during a dive. When the proverbial hits the fan during the dive, timer failure for instance then you have a redundant backup. This is usual technical/extended range practice and very sensible.
As for the 'non refundable deposit' that kinda sticks a bit in my throat. Would some form of subsidised training be on offer to offset this?
Booze ban the night before deep dives is common sense and a no brainer.
Sounds like you've managed to strip most of the fun stuff out of diving! Also sounds like the type of 'Elitism' that drives many people away from diving in my opinion. You can count me out!
ok then, sounds like a sensible diver:rolleyes::rolleyes:
I'm doing more trainning with you so I'd be up for learning more about what your plans are. Not into deep diving yet, and probably not for a few years, not to the depths that your planning anyway, but would be up for helping out and learning more anyway.
No Bubbles
01-10-08, 17:56
Where you say that training will be frequent and demanding what does this mean. If someone has a tech qualification or indeed exceeds the tech qualifaction required by Northern Technical and continues to be dived up, then what form will this training take, with what certifing authority and why???
dive granny
01-10-08, 18:14
As someone who is definitely not a techy diver:rolleyes: It sounds to me like a 'club' or group being set up for like minded divers.
If you like the idea join up, if not, don't join up. Simple. No stress guys, chill:)
No Bubbles
01-10-08, 18:27
I'm sorry but its not answering the questions, I am a technical diver, I am dived up and i do want to join people to go tech diving but I think thats its reasonable to find out if I am going to be expected to turn out to have someone back check my qualifications and ability prior to joining a trip or expedition. If this is the case then it raises the question of responsibility, who says whether someone is up for this type of diving or not. Hell of a call when they are not a student.
Its not a club So basically you just want people to buy you a boat
I think not
Do you expect NT just to supply everything and let people along for the jolly, a team should be expected to share the costs
Its not a club So basically you just want people to buy you a boat
I think not
Hey if your not interested then don't bother posting. Nobody's interested in negative views so just keep them to yourself.
Chill out folks :rolleyes:,Ian's currently in port on his ship and will explain everything soon,i gave him a bell and he's trying to find somewhere with the internet as we speak.
I'm sorry but its not answering the questions, I am a technical diver, I am dived up and i do want to join people to go tech diving but I think thats its reasonable to find out if I am going to be expected to turn out to have someone back check my qualifications and ability prior to joining a trip or expedition. If this is the case then it raises the question of responsibility, who says whether someone is up for this type of diving or not. Hell of a call when they are not a student.
I thought my other half was being an arrogant twit when I read this then I realised it is Gaz Guzzler, not Gas Guzzler. People take note!
Hello Gaz Guzzler and welcome to Conger Alley. Perhaps you would like to introduce yourself in Jimmy's Pub.
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 19:43
My god I have opened a can of worms here..........
I am looking for guy's who are commited and willing to work as a team to carryout expeditions....the stringent training schedule is there for us all to keep us sharp and that includes me:)
This venture is not for my gain it is for every member of the gas team, we will learn from each other and maybe invest in a few ideas for the team.
One thing that really disappointed me was the comment that it was for my gain, I can assure you that I am comfortable finacially.....:D raised £13,000 in 2 years for cash for kids....24 hr dive and other stuff abroad..
To carry out more demanding and costly expedition's I would like guys who I could rely on and know personally.
The team shall not be politics driven.ask any member of Atlantic Divers, been chairman 9 years in a row. Now it time to start looking at deeper and more challenging wrecks and sites
I shall be holding a meeting in about a month, please be positive about this and any comments please wait until then and we can discuss it then
Its a move forward I think the only one that like's me is Dive Granny and she supported the 24 hr dive
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 19:47
As a gas diver i cold be interested depending on the politics
No Politics:D
No Bubbles
01-10-08, 19:47
NT thats good with me I will await the forthcoming detail.
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 19:48
Sounds like you've managed to strip most of the fun stuff out of diving! Also sounds like the type of 'Elitism' that drives many people away from diving in my opinion. You can count me out!
Fair enough plenty of other divers:p
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 19:51
I like a drink too ask Lindz:D But there a time and a place, bend yourself on Helium and you can kiss diving goodbye:eek:
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 19:53
Its not a club So basically you just want people to buy you a boat
I think not:mad:
It not a club it is a Team.....come along to the meeting and we can talk about it :rolleyes:
Not for my gain for the teams gain..........I have a boat she's 71mtrs long 1,500 tons and gorgeous
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 19:59
I'm sorry but its not answering the questions, I am a technical diver, I am dived up and i do want to join people to go tech diving but I think thats its reasonable to find out if I am going to be expected to turn out to have someone back check my qualifications and ability prior to joining a trip or expedition. If this is the case then it raises the question of responsibility, who says whether someone is up for this type of diving or not. Hell of a call when they are not a student.
We all play as a team and help each other........been tech diving over 10 years and teaching for 7 years, I might learn from you or vice versa:)
If you think your up for it thats good enough for me;)
NorthernTechnical
01-10-08, 20:00
Hey if your not interested then don't bother posting. Nobody's interested in negative views so just keep them to yourself.
Thanks Mr Fairley;)
My god I have opened a can of worms here..........
I am looking for guy's who are commited and willing to work as a team to carryout expeditions....the stringent training schedule is there for us all to keep us sharp and that includes me:)
This venture is not for my gain it is for every member of the gas team, we will learn from each other and maybe invest in a few ideas for the team.
One thing that really disappointed me was the comment that it was for my gain, I can assure you that I am comfortable finacially.....:D raised £13,000 in 2 years for cash for kids....24 hr dive and other stuff abroad..
To carry out more demanding and costly expedition's I would like guys who I could rely on and know personally.
The team shall not be politics driven.ask any member of Atlantic Divers, been chairman 9 years in a row. Now it time to start looking at deeper and more challenging wrecks and sites
I shall be holding a meeting in about a month, please be positive about this and any comments please wait until then and we can discuss it then
Its a move forward I think the only one that like's me is Dive Granny and she supported the 24 hr dive
We like you! (pass us please!)
GG (the original gas guzzler - not the new counterfeit one!) and I are interested in this - helping out in some way. Not trimix qualified yet but I hear there's a very good training agency called ITDA around.
No Bubbles
01-10-08, 21:43
Unfortunately when you subscribe to this forum it does not tell you that you have chosen a name similar to someone else, so if it offends then I apologise. I am certainly not an impostor. With regard to this particular subject I am a tech diver and NT is something that I might be interested in.
craigdiver
01-10-08, 21:46
We like you! (pass us please!).
I second what Claire has said - However, I thought I had accidentaly stumbled on a YD forum for a moment!
Now I know I don't need to buy 2 complete sets of kit, I look forward to meeting you.
Kind Regards
Craig
Hey if your not interested then don't bother posting. Nobody's interested in negative views so just keep them to yourself.
exactly :)
and Rule 4 everyone! Be NICE (ffs)
Iain,
post details of when your team meeting might be and if im around, i might pop along, just so long as loudy is driving...:D:D
sounds like a good move forward for tech diving in scotland.
Mr Flibble
02-10-08, 00:46
I thought I had accidentaly stumbled on a YD forum for a moment!
:D
It was kinda going that way for a bit. As has already been said an offer was made for divers to join a team, if you aren't interested or don't agree with the setup then don't join. Simple. :D
Mr Flibble
02-10-08, 00:48
i might pop along, just so long as loudy is driving...:D:D
He better be getting the beers in as well. :cool:
He better be getting the beers in as well. :cool:
you rumbled me...:D
scubagranny
02-10-08, 13:04
As the least experienced diving member of Conger Alley, maybe I shouldn't comment, but the whole concept sounds good to me. If I was 20 years (maybe that should read 30!!) younger, I'd love to take my diving much further. When it comes to deep diving, surely the more rules in place the better, anything to help keep you safe. If I was doing all this, I would want to know that everything possible had been covered, by myself, as well as fellow divers. And as divegranny says, you join or you don't. Good luck to you all.
NorthernTechnical
03-10-08, 21:47
Thanks for all your support, I shall be looking at beginning of November for the meeting........
And your never too old, one of my PADI Assistant Instructors in training is 70 next year..:)
The team is open to anyone.........my other half is a PADI Advanced and she deals with some of the research and admin, she's out the water just now,little bit pregnant:D.....and one day she will be on the RMS Lusitania
Cheers
Ian
NorthernTechnical
05-10-08, 01:38
Hello there
Those members of the forum wishing to attend the meeting please pm or e-mail me your e-mail address and I shall keep you informed.
Looking forward to a good year next year of lot's of good deep stuff:)
see ya soon
Thanks for all your support, I shall be looking at beginning of November for the meeting........
And your never too old, one of my PADI Assistant Instructors in training is 70 next year..:)
The team is open to anyone.........my other half is a PADI Advanced and she deals with some of the research and admin, she's out the water just now,little bit pregnant:D.....and one day she will be on the RMS Lusitania
Cheers
Ian
Gas team meeting has been arranged for Thursday 13th. the meeting will be held at the Bonnie Prince Charlie pub in East Kilbride, the meeting will be held in the function room and will kick off at around 7.30ish - details of the location can be found here (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=bonnie+prince+charlie+east+kilbride&fb=1&view=text&latlng=4922142512705922205)
stafforddiver
07-11-08, 09:40
Ooooh,
I might come along and say hello at this then.
Be good to put some faces to names............would be interested to see what you have got planned :)
Just a quick thanks to all who came along last night.
A lot of good points discussed and everyone seemed pretty interested in the way we are planning on going.
I will be sending out an email to all who left contact details of all points discussed and the plans for the start of next year.
To anyone who couldn't make it please don't hesitate to PM either myself or Northern Technical with your email address and i shall add you to the list.
Thanks again,
Lindsay