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2 missing divers found after not surfacing after a night dive in Queensland.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23750078-2,00.html
dive granny
24-05-08, 12:48
They were very lucky:eek:
Latest news at 7am, is that this couple have been paid a six figure sum by a British newspaper for their story.
However, the Queensland Premier has announce that if they have, then they would like a nice donation to cover the $100000 rescue operation.
Quite rightly too!
Right here's the plan, we go for a dive, go missing, claim to have been at sea for 2 days and survived only by chance when a pack of seals found us and brought us near shore, sell the store to the papers for a 6 figure sum and then come and join you in Oz and do it all again :D
dive granny
26-05-08, 16:44
Don't tempt fate Shog. (Feel I have said that before!):eek::eek:
Didn't see the report, but last night ITN ran this story with the headline suggesting that the story being sold to the press wasn't true.
latest news from DAN a-pac
Clarification re Divers Rescued in North Queensland
DAN would like to clarify some inaccurate reports that have been propagated in the media, within Australia and internationally, regarding the payment of costs associated with the search and rescue of the two divers in north Queensland.
DAN has stated they will be willing to cover the rescue of the divers, both DAN Members (DAN Europe and DAN America) from the time the divers were found, their evacuation to the hospital and any medical costs associated with their stay in the hospital.
John Lippmann (Executive Director, DAN Asia-Pacific) did also state that it might be possible that DAN could make a relatively small contribution to the cost of the search, although there is little or no coverage for “search” in the policy.
from John Lippman himself!
http://www.danasiapacific.org/main/_pdf/give_these_divers_a_break.pdf
DAN Media Release:
http://www.danasiapacific.org/main/_pdf/MediaRelease-Richard&Allyson.pdf
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/24836740/?GT1=43001
Puts a different slant on the story...
Dive Tramp
31-05-08, 10:35
Oh My Gawd :eek:! If you've been in the water for 19hours, don't EVER let yourself be winched into a helicopter in a vertical position! Your lower body has been compressed and supported by the water for a long period of time and when you are lifted clear of the water the blood and fluids in your body will immediately pool back to the lower body immediately lowering your Blood Pressure and draining the blood supply from your Vital Organs, eg, your Heart, Brain, etc. This could bring on clinical shock and you may die from that just as you thought you were being rescued! It is much safer to be winched up as horizontal as possible, usually with a double strop (or a basket as the Americans use).
Looks like these Helicopter pilots could learn a thing or two from our SAR Pilots.:rolleyes:
And, once inside the chopper, you should remain horizontal, not be sitting up smiling for the cameras...lie down take it easy, you've just had a bad day/night!
Good point! I have to admit I assumed that the pic of the helicopter was just a stock image, I assumed there was no-one left who still lifted casualties vertically :eek:
We teach that even recovering a casualty onto the shore!!
. This will bring on clinical shock and you may die from that just as you thought you were being rescued!
well obviously this time it never killed them, funny that...
there are so many different stories being posted around the internet, only confirmed truth is from the other divers on the boat whose story coincides with the dive operators.
man eating shark infested waters indeed, more chance of getting bitten by a salty croc!
"In “Open Water,” the ill-fated couple start bickering within an hour of realizing they’re lost at sea."
And the relevance of this is what? Rephrased would be "In the fictional film "open water" losely based on another story in which the main points are hotly disputed between various parties the charcter did this - now back to the news story" :confused::confused::confused:
Trying to get factual information from the media - what a waste of f*&%ing time!
Remember always to make a bloody nuisance of yourself everytime you are on a dive boat - they may want to leave you but at least they won't simply forget you! :D;)
well obviously this time it never killed them, funny that...
I'm guessing you don't believe in shock/death through vertical lifting after extended times in the water then?
It was a lifeboat cox who first explained it to me some years ago but I've not tried to research it, it's certainly been taught on trainings I've had as being a significant risk and one of the movers in causing the rescue services to adopt the sitting lift.
What's your reasoning? :confused:
"In “Open Water,” the ill-fated couple start bickering within an hour of realizing they’re lost at sea."
Which only goes to prove how far removed from any kind of reality it is.
In the real world - 10 seconds max :D
I hardly bickered with you at all on our first dive :D
I hardly bickered with you at all on our first dive :D
Which I greatly appreciate :)
One day we will look back at it and laugh.
Hysterically.
As they sedate us.
:D:D
So close to my real life!
I'm guessing you don't believe in shock/death through vertical lifting after extended times in the water then?
It was a lifeboat cox who first explained it to me some years ago but I've not tried to research it, it's certainly been taught on trainings I've had as being a significant risk and one of the movers in causing the rescue services to adopt the sitting lift.
What's your reasoning? :confused:
At no point at did I say this was a misconception.
At no point at did I say this was a misconception.
Ok, obviously I took the wrong meaning from your comment then, no worries :)
Lizardland
01-06-08, 17:39
It was a lifeboat cox who first explained it to me some years ago but I've not tried to research it, it's certainly been taught on trainings I've had as being a significant risk and one of the movers in causing the rescue services to adopt the sitting lift.
There was a documentary on Radio 4 a couple of years ago about it. It was discovered by the Germans during the war because they were losing a lot of planes over the North Sea but they were extremely efficient at getting to the pilots quickly. They couldn't work out why it was they were reaching downed pilots quickly who seemed reasonably OK only for them to die on the surface. They used live concentration camp prisoners in immersion tanks to study who lived and who died when different techniques were used.
Dive Tramp
01-06-08, 19:01
That lesson seemed to have been forgotten for a few decades as it was "re-discovered" during the investigation into the number of casualties "rescued" from the sea during the notorious Fastnet Race in 1979 who subsequently died or suffered from shock upon being rescued. The investigation was held to determine the likely cause. It was found that the rescue techniques differed between the Air Force helicopter pilots and the Navy and Coastguard pilots. Some lifted their casualties vertically in strops and others lifted them in the sitting postion. Those lifting vertically reported a greater incidence of fatalities, whilst those lifting their casualties sitting or supine (lying flat on one's back) reported better success rates.
Now, all rescues of persons immersed for a long period of time are carried out with the casualty in the horizontal postion.
Lizardland
01-06-08, 19:28
That lesson seemed to have been forgotten for a few decades
That's what the documentary was about, whether useful data obtained by immoral means could be used. According to the documentary a great deal of Nazi medical research that could have proven very useful (the link between smoking and heart & lung disease was another example) was suppressed after the war because of the methods used to obtain the results.
The joys of crap radio reception when you're driving home from dives and can only pick up R4, every day is a school day :D