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Did my equipment speciality today with divebunker which was really good,got my pony regs (apeks tx 50) serviced as part of the course,also did neoprene cuff/neck seals.As that gives me 5 speciality's so i also got the grand sounding title of master scuba diver :D.
Horrraaaaayyyyyy - Now you can fix my neck seal and service my regs ! No more bills for servicing !!!
well done master scuba diver.
you deserve it. ;)
are you qualified to service Apex regs now or do you have to do a course?
well done master scuba diver.
you deserve it. ;)
are you qualified to service Apex regs now or do you have to do a course?
Not qualified to do servicing and i wouldn't be messing with anybody's regs except my own.
wow, a MSD and you've only done how many dives?
L.M.A.O......
wow, a MSD and you've only done how many dives?
L.M.A.O......
er 20........x10 lol :D
can you service Gonks' snorkel?
I think it maybe worn out....
Not qualified to do servicing and i wouldn't be messing with anybody's regs except my own.
You mean you got a bit of paper that lets you service your own gear and that makes you a Master Diver??? :rolleyes: :D
Well done mate
You mean you got a bit of paper that lets you service your own gear and that makes you a Master Diver??? :rolleyes: :D
Well done mate
The equipment course is a basic maintenance course not a qualification to service regs but i got mine serviced as part of the course and got to help,having rescue and 5 different specialities with at least 50 logged dives gives you msd.
Same as the one you have,as you have 5 specialities too ;)
Same as the one you have,as you have 5 specialities too ;)
Aye, 5 proper ones. Not "here's a spanner and a manual" :D :D :D ;) :p
http://www.regthing.co.uk/images/sc-as-mech.gif
:D
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones :D:D check yer pm's :D
be a cool avater for me as i'm a Mechanic anyway.
so whats your specialties Regthing?
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so whats your specialties Regthing?
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I've seen his card :o
Ask him if he actually did them or just got signed off :eek::eek::eek:
I've seen his card :o
Ask him if he actually did them or just got signed off :eek::eek::eek:
It cost me extra to get them signed off ;)
I've seen his card :o
Ask him if he actually did them or just got signed off :eek::eek::eek:
http://i.pbase.com/o5/42/267742/1/68416031.aQBkbWkL.fight.gif i shall await his answer on the forum, no need for me to ask...
So where does master scuba diver fit in in the PADI system?
Tea making
Biscuit suppling
Tank carrying
Advanced coffee making
Cheque writing
It cost me extra to get them signed off ;)
so what are they then?
what makes you 'special'? :rolleyes:
Tea making
Biscuit suppling
Tank carrying
Advanced coffee making
Cheque writing
ya didny get 'underwater badge hunter' then? http://thump01.pbase.com/o5/42/267742/1/68416039.B0ZkE6aN.lmao.gif
so what are they then?
what makes you 'special'? :rolleyes:
You're slow tonight Stew ;)
ya didny get 'underwater badge hunter' then? http://thump01.pbase.com/o5/42/267742/1/68416039.B0ZkE6aN.lmao.gif
My cheque for that one bounced :D
So where does master scuba diver fit in in the PADI system?
Highest you can go as an amature diver.
http://www.padi.com/padi/en/kd/msd.aspx
I did SSI, very similar to PADI, just not quite as americanized
Highest you can go as an amature diver.
http://www.padi.com/padi/en/kd/msd.aspx
I see. Well done.
Does it concern anyone else that PADI describes master diver as putting you in a class of distinction? I was once told that divers with 20-100 dives are most likely to have accidents, as their confidence grows and they do more challenging dives. Should PADI be describing divers with 50 dives as in a class of distinction?
Not talking about you Loudy. I know you have far more. Just talking in general.
I see. Well done.
Does it concern anyone else that PADI describes master diver as putting you in a class of distinction? I was once told that divers with 20-100 dives are most likely to have accidents, as their confidence grows and they do more challenging dives. Should PADI be describing divers with 50 dives as in a class of distinction?
Not talking about you Loudy. I know you have far more. Just talking in general.
Claire i in no way class myself as a "master diver" and don't want to see this turn into a slagging agency's thread.I too was told that round about 100 dives is where your more vulnerable to accidents as you get braver, go deeper etc as confidence grows.
Claire i in no way class myself as a "master diver" and don't want to see this turn into a slagging agency's thread.I too was told that round about 100 dives is where your more vulnerable to accidents as you get braver, go deeper etc as confidence grows.
Dito.
SSI give out Master Diver cards after 50 dives :eek: I dive with a few guys who went through this scheme and none of them claimed to be worthy of the title after 50 dives. I'm at 77 just now (not a patch on Loudy ;)) so I'm still a beginner...
they give/gave out cards...after 50 dives?:rolleyes:
didnt earn them... just gave em out?
Should PADI be describing divers with 50 dives as in a class of distinction
It's been spoken about on quite a few forums since it was released by PADI. I think it's a bit of a gimmick, but who is willing to state at what point you become an "experienced" diver?
50 dives is the minimum but hey you can technically be divemaster at 60 and instructor with 100.......aye right
It's been spoken about on quite a few forums since it was released by PADI. I think it's a bit of a gimmick, but who is willing to state at what point you become an "experienced" diver?
i think its a personal thing, you know within yourself what knowledge you have & what physical & physiological capabilities you have within your diving enviroment.
only when you push them to the edge or beyond & get 'stung' do you realise just how experienced you really are.
It's been spoken about on quite a few forums since it was released by PADI. I think it's a bit of a gimmick, but who is willing to state at what point you become an "experienced" diver?
It definatly is a gimmick but shops prefer their divemasters to hold msd aswell as they can helpout with speciality's they hold.
Also imagine being a divemaster guiding certified divers and you don't hold the nitrox cert but they do so you have to bin the dive early,or if you don't hold the deep cert you have to limit the dives to 30M.Could be a wee bit embarrassing.
i think its a personal thing, you know within yourself what knowledge you have & what physical & physiological capabilities you have within your diving enviroment.
only when you push them to the edge or beyond & get 'stung' do you realise just how experienced you really are.
Yep and that time at the slates wi you opened my eye's.
ok they were going in opposite directions i might add :D
50 dives is the minimum but hey you can technically be divemaster at 60 and instructor with 100.......aye right
you only need 60 to a SSAC Master diver, and 75 to start the Branch Instructor course.
Any how i better get to bed,some of us are up at 05:30 to go diving :D:D
you only need 60 to a SSAC Master diver, and 75 to start the Branch Instructor course.
thats slightly misleading, the 60md dives you require are at a certain level.
i.e. your previous sport diver open water training dives cant count towards the 60, only a handfull of your sport diver qualified dives can.
so basically, you need to perhaps do around 30-40 of those dives at MD level training.
it can take 1 year to do MD....
it can also take 1 year to do the BI course & become qualified.
as you say, starting at 75 dives, not actually being one.
a sport diver with x-amount of dives who becomes a BI can only teach to sport diver level. MD-BI can teach to MD level.
thats slightly misleading
No, I dont belive it is.
True or false? you can become a SSAC Master Diver with 60 dives?
True or false? Can you start a Branch Instructor course with only 75 dives?
In the same way you can become a PADI Master Scuba diver with only 50 dives, a Divemaster with 60 and an instructor at 100 dives.
No, I dont belive it is.
True or false? you can become a SSAC Master Diver with 60 dives?
True or false? Can you start a Branch Instructor course with only 75 dives?
In the same way you can become a PADI Master Scuba diver with only 50 dives, a Divemaster with 60 and an instructor at 100 dives.
1. False - you need at least 70. The 10 dives for Sport Diver qualification don't count in counting 60 dives.
2. True - you can start a BI course with 75 dives. But then you can start a divemaster course with 20 dives can't you?
I am not slagging any agency - if Scotsac or BSAC had put on their website that a master diver certification put the diver in a class of distinction then I would have raised that too.
It just concerns me slightly that PADI state this in regard to a qualification - whether or not divers who achieve it actually believe it, is it not an issue of perception?
Is it not possible to comment on these things and wonder about what causes incidents without being accused of agency slagging?
Lizardland
12-12-07, 11:29
There are dive schools in Florida that will take an open water diver to master scuba diver instructor in a matter of weeks. That is even more frightening.
I don't really see a problem with it on an amateur level for a diver to be called whatever. It quickly becomes apparent through a couple of dives what level of experience and ability someone is at. It isn't difficult to spot the people who talk a good game.
If it's done through a decent instructor then all training is good training. The big problem -- from my experience of working in dive centres -- is that a lot of instructors sign off specialities as a form of trade. Look after the shop for a couple of hours and I'll sign you off for drift diving, or buy this new reg and I'll sign off your deep card, etc. It happened a lot in places I've worked, here and abroad.
I probably don't have half the certs I should have for the diving I do, I know plenty of people who haven't a single ticket to their names.
If you're capable of doing the diving that you are doing safely then it doesn't matter what you call yourself. I guess the big danger is that "experience" ratings can give a false sense of security so then it comes down to whether you are happy diving with that person.
Cheers,
Stuart
Dive Tramp
12-12-07, 12:40
Highest you can go as an amature diver.
http://www.padi.com/padi/en/kd/msd.aspx
Now THAT is scary! At 12 years of age you can be a Master Scuba Diver? :eek:
Well thats just killed off any enthusiasm in the kiddie, Nothing left to look forward to....he/she's done it all....and probably got a very pretty T-shirt too!
On another tack, do we think this 12year old could get a full grown person out of trouble in the water? He/she might have the Rescue Diver ticket (sorry, Junior Rescue Diver...), but could they seriously be expected to perform a rescue on a fully grown adult? or should they be diving only with other kiddies? :eek:
Lizardland
12-12-07, 13:33
On another tack, do we think this 12year old could get a full grown person out of trouble in the water? He/she might have the Rescue Diver ticket (sorry, Junior Rescue Diver...), but could they seriously be expected to perform a rescue on a fully grown adult? or should they be diving only with other kiddies? :eek:
Same could be said for any buddy pair where there is a big physical difference between divers, there are plenty of small female divers diving with very big male divers. IIRC all you need to do is beach the casualty in the PADI system, you don't need to get them out the water. Get them safe and stable, get help.
Cheers,
Stuart
No, I dont belive it is.
True or false? you can become a SSAC Master Diver with 60 dives?
True or false? Can you start a Branch Instructor course with only 75 dives?
you appear to have a problem grasping the concept of my former post so i shall attempt to make it a little easier for your understanding this time with numbers, sums & colours.
but dont worry, i will do the sums...;)
master diver, ssac, 60 dives as follows....
attained within sport diver level,
30 dives to 20m
20 dives to 30m
that makes 50 dives (30+20=50).
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required for Master diver.....
18 dives while demonstrating a particular core skill (im not listing them)
10 dives from 31m-40m.
that makes 28 dives (18+10=28)
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so a master diver would require at least 50+28=78 dives to become a MD.
that is assuming every core skill was met at the first attempt.
me personally, i would make the trainee carry out some core skills again just to prove the first attempt was not just a lucky fluke & so i knew they were actually proficient.
so on the scale of things, i reckon around 88-90 dives would be more likely the area, coupled with the sport training dives that would make around the region of 100 dives before one is 'crowned' a master diver.
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branch instructor...
you have asked a question that i have already explained simply enough, however, here we go again...but with more detail for you this time.... yeah ok, i will use the colouring in pen as well if it makes it easier.. :)
you can go on a BI course when you have 75 dives (75 being a prerequisite), from there you must fulfill a certain amount of pool training with trainees overseen by a qualified BI to a level where you are proficient at it.
there is or was (not sure if they are still doing it or if it was dropped recently) 2 pool training assessments to be carried out & witnessed by a SSAC regional coach, if you pass you can move on to open water training, fail-must be repeated.
once passed the pool training.. you can then take the trainee out in to open water, again accompanied by a qualified BI.
once proficient, 2 dives to be assessed & witnessed by a SSAC regional coach (which you must pass) before eventually being signed off as a fully fledged branch instructor.
2+2=4 dives witnessed in front of a regional coach, all other training, witnesses by a club branch instructor.
so as i said before, i think what you wrote was slightly misleading, i hope the above clears up any doubt you had regarding the SSAC training schedule.
if you have any other questions regarding it & if i can answer them, i would be only too happy to help you out.
In the same way you can become a PADI Master Scuba diver with only 50 dives, a Divemaster with 60 and an instructor at 100 dives.
i have no idea as im not overly interested in looking up the statistics to see if your right or not.
i will take your word for it.
i think its a personal thing, you know within yourself what knowledge you have & what physical & physiological capabilities you have within your diving enviroment.
only when you push them to the edge or beyond & get 'stung' do you realise just how experienced you really are.
is what i said earlier & it can be equally applied to advancement in training, teaching or any aspect of diving.
Lizardland
12-12-07, 15:07
branch instructor...
IIRC BI is fairly restricted in what he/she can teach?
Under the PADI system, instructor is instructor. A monkey with a biscuit could meet the pre-reqs, pass the course and be out in the world running a dive school. Chuck in a few specialties and provided the monkey still hasn't lost or broken his biscuit will be licensed to teach whatever the monkey wants.
That to me is a far worse situation than someone going through the club qualification system and reaching BI with 75 dives.
There seems to be a lot of numbers here, what is really important is the skill level and mind set. Whilst obviously you need to have completed some amount of dives to gain the experience, if they have all been carried out at one or two dive sites in perfect connditions then no matter how many you have done are you ready to be a master diver or instructor? I would suggest not, you really need as large a range of experience as possible, how is that quantifiable? I know of a couple of instructors who are both SCOTSAC and PADI certified, and whilst very good divers, their mind set sucks, they make students do all sorts of things that they think should be done not what the certifying organisation deems necessary.
I'd be willing to bet that most of you will also know or have met at least one diver with a large number of dives under their belt that shouldn't even be given a snorkel.
The numbers are a guideline but any responsible instructor should apply all the rules for certification and not go just by a number, it isn't always pleasent telling someone that they are not ready for this or that but sometimes it just has to be done.
Can we now forget this SSAC/PADI thing, it is the diver that counts not his number!
IIRC BI is fairly restricted in what he/she can teach?
Under the PADI system, instructor is instructor. A monkey with a biscuit could meet the pre-reqs, pass the course and be out in the world running a dive school. Chuck in a few specialties and provided the monkey still hasn't lost or broken his biscuit will be licensed to teach whatever the monkey wants.
That to me is a far worse situation than someone going through the club qualification system and reaching BI with 75 dives.
i wouldnt say its all that limited..it is pretty comprehensive within itself.
i believe its limited to 40m on air as long as the bi is a md, all skills etc.
or 30m on air if the bi is a sd, all skills involved etc.
no official technical (or gas) training, thats done on a personal level out-with the club environment:rolleyes:.
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i once met an English gent when in Egypt, he had done an intensive training course in Florida, he accelerated from being a non-diver to a padi instructor within a month.
all courses were done back to back.
it makes no odds what agency he is with its the confidence that has been purchased which is a dangerous tool.
I'd be willing to bet that most of you will also know or have met at least one diver with a large number of dives under their belt that shouldn't even be given a snorkel.
yes, i know him, his buoyancy is horrendous (looks like a dog in the water), his mind narrowed to any learning other than what he knows (or his mate tells him), dives out-with his depth (piggy backing), has bad gas management skills (whats a SAC rate?), has ran out of air in the past (oops..help me please) & he teaches people to dive with SSAC.
I think there can be pressure on PADI(for example) instructors to pass people who may not be ready because they have 'paid their money'.
This can come from two angles, the client having 'paid for the ticket' won't be happy not getting it. Also the probable bad press said client could wreek on the instructor (e.g. money grabbing so and so :eek:).
More so if the client has travelled to the dive store for a weekends course for example. I know my instructor would keep taking you out at no extra cost until you had earned your 'paid for' ticket. But I can imagine that the less scupulous could be inclined to sign off someone who they will probably never clap eyes on again.
Well thats just killed off any enthusiasm in the kiddie, Nothing left to look forward to....he/she's done it all....and probably got a very pretty T-shirt too!
You get a very pretty teeshirt when you do the bubblemaker course when 8 - and a neat towel too!
Dive Tramp
12-12-07, 17:23
I think there can be pressure on PADI(for example) instructors to pass people who may not be ready because they have 'paid their money'.
This can come from two angles, the client having 'paid for the ticket' won't be happy not getting it. Also the probable bad press said client could wreek on the instructor (e.g. money grabbing so and so :eek:).
More so if the client has travelled to the dive store for a weekends course for example. I know my instructor would keep taking you out at no extra cost until you had earned your 'paid for' ticket. But I can imagine that the less scupulous could be inclined to sign off someone who they will probably never clap eyes on again.
In my particular field (RYA Powerboat Training) the RYA felt this could become a problem with perhaps, less than honest or competent Training Centres handing out Level 2 certificates where they were not warranted, and countered it by Numbering each of the Issued Certificates. This ensures that if there were any problems encountered later (accidents, etc...) the issuing Centre and Instructor could be traced and checked up on.
Attendance at a course is by NO means a guarantee of attaining a suitable level of expertise and therefore a certificate, no matter how good your Instructor is. You must take responsibility for reaching an acceptable standard yourself. I would feel cheated if my Instructor gave me a pass just coz I paid to be on the course, if I did not acquire the necessary competent skills I went to learn!
As an Instructor you/we have an obligation to pass and reward only those who have achieved the skills required. It is your job (vocation, for those in the volunteering bracket) to train folk to the required level, irrespective of monetary concerns!
Everything you say is true DT, and the same is operated by PADI, look at the back of your card, you should see youir instructor and dive centre noted.
Yes it can be difficult to say no to people, but just imagine sitting in the dock at the inquest, puts it into pespective, saying no just becomes a whole lot easier.
Dive Tramp
12-12-07, 18:01
Thanks DT (from the original!), My qual book (BSAC) lists all instructors that signed me off on each skill/drill undertaken.
Thats what brings it all into perspective, when you have to give evidence at the Inquest...
Sorry guys, but if you're not up to the mark, I'm not going to give you a "licence" to kill yourself or anybody else! You will be and can be good enough, I'll show you how,... now go and practise and come back when you're ready!
I have to admit that I did i fast track course but only for open water and the scary thing is at the time I thought I knew everything,but looking back I didn't have a clue.
Although I'm only at 50 logged dives I feel confident to do my divemaster, Im probably gonna look back in how ever many dives later n think god what was i thinking.
But whoever the instructor is can only go on what they see at the time, Its what u choose to do later if u want to break the rules or not.
dive granny
12-12-07, 21:31
Anyway to get back to the original point of the thread. Well done Loudy:)
Anyway to get back to the original point of the thread. Well done Loudy:)
LMAO :D cheers DG,wish i'd never opened my gob ;)
well done loudy!, think everyone is missig the point !!!! education can only be a good thing and to my mind helps to become a safer diver, or is it just cause im new to the sport ? :confused: how many dives for a minimum requirement looses it it 's importance when you' ve only done 75 dives at Powmill or 75 to 40 m on wrecks at all sorts of sights. which would be better ? who would be better?
Well today we did our Padi Wet Pants Diver, Padi Trout Diver, Padi Horse Kiss Diver, Padi Quarry Diver, Padi Solo Diver and Padi 450miles in a Hilux to dive a quarry Diver :D
Well today we did our Padi Wet Pants Diver, Padi Trout Diver, Padi Horse Kiss Diver, Padi Quarry Diver, Padi Solo Diver and Padi 450miles in a Hilux to dive a quarry Diver :D
ROFLMFAO :D:D:D
Lizardland
12-12-07, 23:01
i wouldnt say its all that limited..it is pretty comprehensive within itself.
i believe its limited to 40m on air as long as the bi is a md, all skills etc.
or 30m on air if the bi is a sd, all skills involved etc.
no official technical (or gas) training, thats done on a personal level out-with the club environment:rolleyes:.
Fair enough, it wasn't a critcism, i thought it was a bit limited in what/how you could teach. My ex did the BSAC equivalent and there was IIRC a bit of restriction on it i.e. you couldn't teach in open water on your own and there were some courses you couldn't teach. I may just have misunderstood it or it may have been a totally different qual that I'm thinking of but it looked similar to the PADI Asst Instructor type level. Admittedly my memory of events may have been clouded by my pathological urge to throttle her at the time :D
Lizardland
12-12-07, 23:07
Anyway to get back to the original point of the thread. Well done Loudy:)
Never let a point get in the way of a good argument :D Anyway, well done! All training is good training!
alexmaclennan
12-12-07, 23:19
..........in Stewart's 'counting for all post'. Maybe too much red wine for me tonight :eek:
Well done loudy
alex
well done young man . i,m doing or trying to finish the b.i. with ssac one more open water assessment and a lecture assessment to do. i was told you have to complete the b.i. within one year ,why i don,t know .some of the things that brown me off about it . are A having to pay to do the course and B your not allowed to assist any other club branches who might be finding it difficult keeping a good instructor /trainee ratio . i know thats what regional instructors are for . but for pool training it just seems daft . i know our club has been tight a few times and its a bit hard on the trainee who is turning up every week . :) point A i,m just tight
Fair enough, it wasn't a critcism, i thought it was a bit limited in what/how you could teach. My ex did the BSAC equivalent and there was IIRC a bit of restriction on it i.e. you couldn't teach in open water on your own and there were some courses you couldn't teach.
i didn't read it as criticism;).
yes it has similar restrictions as to having in water support until your fully qualified, then its a one on one.
...course teaching up to your qualification level.
daytona12
didn't your club pay for your BI course?
after all its them who benefit in the end.
anyone going for BI within our club has had their courses paid for via club funds. we decided this via a committee meeting as beneficial for the club.
i didn't read it as criticism;).
yes it has similar restrictions as to having in water support until your fully qualified, then its a one on one.
...course teaching up to your qualification level.
daytona12
didn't your club pay for your BI course?
after all its them who benefit in the end.
anyone going for BI within our club has had their courses paid for via club funds. we decided this via a committee meeting as beneficial for the club.
I think we pay our own. But then at £35 it doesn't really break the bank. I've now been trying to do a BI course for months - hopefully the January one will go ahead. I noticed Scotsac cashed my cheque though. A whole 2 days before they cancelled - sneaky.
has the January course got enough people for it to go ahead?
there are 2 people in our club who are being cohered in to the BI role at the moment. January might be good for them if it's practical.
nice of you to use the colouring crayons, did a big person help you with the spelling?:)
you appear to have a problem grasping the concept of my former post so i shall attempt to make it a little easier for your understanding this time with numbers, sums & colours.
So, just to check is it 50, 60, 78 or 88 dives?
but dont worry, i will do the sums...;)
master diver, ssac, 60 dives as follows....
attained within sport diver level,
30 dives to 20m
20 dives to 30m
that makes 50 dives (30+20=50).
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required for Master diver.....
18 dives while demonstrating a particular core skill (im not listing them)
10 dives from 31m-40m.
that makes 28 dives (18+10=28)
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so a master diver would require at least 50+28=78 dives to become a MD.
could you do the sums again, they dont seem to add up? you mentioned 60 dives, is that 60 dives including the 50 and the 10 training. Or 60 dives including the 10 in the range 31-40m as indicated on the SSAC website? plus anther set of 10?
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me personally, i would make the trainee carry out some core skills again just to prove the first attempt was not just a lucky fluke & so i knew they were actually proficient.
we're not really interested in your opinion, just the facts.
branch instructor...
you have asked a question that i have already explained simply enough, however, here we go again...but with more detail for you this time.... yeah ok, i will use the colouring in pen as well if it makes it easier.. :)
you can go on a BI course when you have 75 dives
A simple yes would have been sufficient, there was no need for you to get flipant and crack open the crayons again.
Anyway, as Granny says back to the orginal post. Well done Loudy, are you sewing your badges on to your drysuit?
are you sewing your badges on to your drysuit?
Probably need to as i'd a couple of leaks today :(
Bloody hell, I just wanted to say congratulations Loudy,
didnt realise it was 7 pages long...
What a solid diver...go guy.
we're not really interested in your opinion, just the facts.
brilliant:D, all the info you require can be found 'officially' here.
http://www.scotsac.com/home.htm
Let's all chill guy's,isn't that the main reason we dive anyway.
Maybe this thread should be closed and binned and i ain't even gonna mention if i pass my DM course :o.
Dive Tramp
13-12-07, 02:08
Well done Loudy!
But before we leave this thread, here we can see why T2T is confused> this is a copy and paste from SSAC website:
At least sixty properly witnessed and varied dives of submerged duration of not less than 15 minutes each. Total dive time to exceed 30 hours logged underwater.
30 to a depth range between 9 - 20 metres
20 to a depth range between 21 -30 metres
10 to a depth of 31 m or more, implementing NDC Deep Diving Regulations. (The ten dives for Diver qualification shall not be included in these forty dives.)
Now, is it just me or is there something wrong with these 60 or is it 40 dives? Clear as a dive in mud!
wheres Charlie when you need him....
it could be
10 Training dives, then :
60 dives which must encompass:
30 to a depth range between 9 - 20 metres
20 to a depth range between 21 -30 metres
10 to a depth of 31 m or more, implementing NDC Deep Diving Regulations.
and Total dive time to exceed 30 hours logged underwater.
and then you do the 16 or so Master Diver training dives.
and now the cat amongst the pigeons...
As a Sport Diver, can you only dive to 30m, or do you need a "top up" badge so you can dive to 40m? that "top up" badge being PADI Deep Diver or TDI? How does this affect your Master Diver course?
Maybe this thread should be closed
granted on the grounds of the least likely globally positioned person joining SSAC.
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